Friday, March 06, 2009

Trying Your Patience.

Okay, what does one think? Too controversial? Too focused? Hopefully no longer bland, but maybe overworked?

If you like this could you live with it on your wall? How would you explain it to a visitor?


Blogger Sushiboy said...

Interesting. The German coat of arms arranged in a Nazi-ish position above, not a swastika but, the symbol of Venus. I'm trying to work out what you are stabbing at there, I may be thinking in too broad of terms though. I'm getting "Germany loves women." Again I'm pretty sure I'm thinking too broadly (er no piggish pun intended)

The background of the image reminds me of the plenary chamber of the Reichstag. I'm not sure if that is intentional. Interesting.

I think to a person who understands the history of the imagery/iconography you used it isn't offensive, even though it does (I think intentionally) evoke feelings from Germany's dark hours. (the use of the geometric wing pattern of the eagle as used by the Nazi's combined with the heavy use of silver, but the head of the eagle is more like the old coat of arms, I think your working on portraying something with that, but I'm not sure I understand that interaction yet.)

I think to explain it I would need to understand it a bit better. Although I own a copy of the "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". While the book is quite anti-nazi, it apologetically sports a swastika on the spine and cover. I've had to explain why I own that book a few times. People assume by the symbol must mean it is just bad as Mein Kampf or something, but it is using the symbol to decry the actions of those who abused it, but that is lost on some people, they really get upset over certain icons, those same people may have issues with this.

In my opinion the tongue of the eagle needs some contrast from the beak. Also I think the right (middle and lower) sections of the piece have too much contrast. The black contrasts greatly with the rest of the area (which is generally pretty light hued). It grabs my eye immediately, drawing it way from the eagle and Venus. Also if the interaction between the eagles Nazi-like wings and the head body and feat of pre/post Nazi Germany is intentional, then maybe that could use some other details (like making the head torso and legs slightly darker to play on the old coat of arms more, not to the point that it is obvious, just a little, it would draw the eye and give some viewers a hint at the interaction)

Wow uh, I hope I don't offend with all that er criticism, I didn't start out meaning offer advice or criticize, if it isn't welcome please ignore me :). This image is very evocative, it just caught my eye is all :) Couldn't help but give my thoughts on it.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Sushiboy said...

ack numerous grammatical and spelling errors above. feet not feat LOL.

7:41 PM  
Blogger Dale said...

In the name of love Sans, what have you done?!

I would not be able to explain this to myself so I would refer them to Sushiboy.

8:38 PM  
Blogger Scarlet said...

When Hitler asked his older hippie brother to organize the latest Nuremberg rally, Goebbels was furious!

3:41 PM  
Blogger Sushiboy said...

Happy Womens day!

1:00 PM  
Blogger Sans Pantaloons said...

Sushi, thank you for your deep analysis and comment. Your perspicacity is most welcome! As you state, there is some iconography that will invoke hostility irrespective of its use.
Upon consideration of this, I will abandon this train of thought, and let the past rest in peace.
Happy Womens' Day!
Thank you once again!

Dale, delegation is your delight!

Scarlet, your insight is deeper than you know!

1:44 PM  
Blogger Scarlet said...

"Scarlet, your insight is deeper than you know!"

I will quote you on that. Too many people have called me shallow.
I knew one day I'd show them!

3:43 PM  
Blogger Lynda said...

There is a bit too much going on for me to really be able to focus on what you are trying to portray.

4:46 PM  
Blogger Sans Pantaloons said...

Scarlet, cave painters & poets!

Lynda, I concur. I need to be more subtle. I shall think deeply on this. Thank you!

5:01 AM  

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